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Chek the ATLAS Z0 8 TeV low mass data set #2270
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Dear @enocera, As mentioned in issue #2267, I've implemented the "light" variant of the dataset. In this variant, statistical and systematic uncertainties are taken from Table 6 in 1710.05167, on top of which I included the luminosity uncertainty (1.9%). However, I took the liberty to play with the luminosity uncertainty and I combined it with different variants, which are listed below:
For each of these variants, I computed the I think the message is rather clear -- the The list above should provide a comprehensive set of combinations useful for this investigation. Please, let me know if something is missing. Also, I've pushed the uncertainty data files that I used to produce the variants, so that you can have a look if something does not convince you. P.S. In the original re-implementation, the luminosity uncertainty was set to 1.8%, although the paper claims 1.9%. Apart from version 1, which already includes (God knows what) luminosity uncertainty in the HepData table, all the other variants use 1.9%. |
Some results from today's code meeting, using directly the NNLO grids (which are slightly different) to compute the chi2 and legacy: 0.6911 |
Dear @enocera $ @scarlehoff, As agreed in the last code meeting, I computed the values of the
First of all, version 1 of HepData always results in an odd Second, the Finally, the origin of the crazily high |
Thank you very much for this @achiefa edit: silly me, the old version was always legacy so luminosity was always uncorrelated |
Indeed, I was just about to say that. edit: |
Very well thought - this is the explanation I'm leaning towards. |
The new one is incompatible also with other datasets though, since we were not able to fit it by itself without mhou... |
@achiefa Question: all these chi2 are w/o MHOUs, right? So that we can compare with the old NNPDF4.0 fit? |
Yes, all those chi2's are w/o MHOUs. |
Dear @achiefa I looked into the MSHT paper, see in particular Fig. 7 of https://arxiv.org/pdf/2012.04684. They have cuts on the ATLAS 8 TeV 2D low mass data, in particular they exclude, for each invariant mass bin, the two most forward rapidity bins. They also remove the lowest invariant mass bin altogether. Could you please try to recompute the chi2 with these cuts? Thanks. |
Hi @enocera, I will compute the chi2. On top of the cuts that you mentioned, should I relax the cuts that remove the two last bins in the invariant mass? |
In our framework, we want to always remove the last two invariant mass bins, because these are incorporated in the high-mass data set. So I would NOT relax the cuts and continue to exclude the last two invariant mass bins. |
Follow-upI computed the $\chi^2 as requested by @enocera, namely applying the same cuts as MSHT. You can find the report here. As far as I can understand, I don't see any improvement in the I also computed the
I'll compute the |
Thanks, Amedeo. So should we conclude that, as soon as we put all the invariant mass bins together (but those on the Z peak), we get a horrible chi2? |
I think it depends on what we are looking at. The report in the first bullet point should be compared with the report I generated for the first comment (here for brevity). Then what I see is that the legacy implementation - which does not correlate the luminosity - worsens, but the |
This PR addresses #2267.